More Research Images
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peteyfrogboyI'm still looking for good pictures of the early 16c style. Right now I'm hunting for evidence of points holding the hose and doublet together. They may just be hidden under belts and sashes, or tied on the inside. There's a possibility that they're pointed to a foundation garment of some sort, but I don't want to go that route unless I have to. I'm also expanding my search to contemporary clothes from other areas, especially Germany.
Triumph of Caesar (detail), Andrea Del Sarto, c.1520
The guy in the center, leaning over the railing, has two-piece hose. There doesn't seem to be any method of joining the top and bottom halves together, though it seems to possibly correspond to the upper leg seam I was looking at before.
Scenes from the Story of Joseph: The Search for the Cup (detail), Bacchiacca, 1515-1516
A detail of an image I looked at before, showing the leg seam. It's clearly a double line, though still unclear exactly what it represents.
Crucifixion, Hans Baldung Grien, 1512
A contemporary German image. The man in the lower left hand corner shows the two piece hose (no evidence of a method to join them) and also points and lacing holes at the waistline. Not an Italian image, obviously, but points at the waist are in evidence in Italy both before and after this period, so it's reasonable to assume that they are in existence at this point as well.
The Scourging of Christ, Alejo Fernández (between 1496 & 1545)
The date of this Spanish painting is unclear, but the style of clothing seems to be in the late 15c/early 16c mode. The men with the scourges have some interesting hose, and there seems to be at least one clear point at the center back on the man on the right. He also seems to be wearing a tank top-style upper garment, perhaps some form of pourpoint.
The Mocking of Christ, Matthias Grünewald, 1503
The man on the right shows a lot of good hose details. Points and lacing holes, seams, and lots of big fat wrinkles. That makes me feel much better about myself.
Halberdier, Jacopo Pontormo, 1530s
A somewhat later style, but still skirtless doublet, wide sleeves, and full hose. Points can be seen at the waist and CF opening.
The Martyrdom of St. Catherine, Jan Provost, 1520s (before 1529)
A Flemish image in a similar style. Lots of details of points and doublet lining.
Flagellation of Christ, Jörg Ratgeb, 1518-19
This German one is just plain weird. The man in the green doublet and red hose is shown conveniently from both sides. The hose seem to attach to the scalloped doublet with a single zig-zag cord. The doublet itself is sleeveless and seems to button on the left side under the arm (there appears to be no opening on the right side). Obviously, there's a lot of allegorical stuff that may be happening here, but these details are very interesting.
Deposition from the Cross (detail)
I've linked to this one before, but it's worth pointing out again for the fringey two-part hose.
Christ and the Adulteress, Titian, 1508-10
No visible points here, but some other nice details, including what happens when your hose aren't pointed up.
Flagellation, Unknown Master, Hungarian, 1514
Man, I'm getting a lot of mileage out of flagellations. This is another weird one. The man on the left has the two part hose, again with no indication of how they're kept together. The front of his hose seem to have a diagonal closure. The full, pleated hose on the right are interesting as well. I saw some others almost identical to those earlier, though I'm not sure if I linked to them.
Triumph of Caesar (detail), Andrea Del Sarto, c.1520
The guy in the center, leaning over the railing, has two-piece hose. There doesn't seem to be any method of joining the top and bottom halves together, though it seems to possibly correspond to the upper leg seam I was looking at before.
Scenes from the Story of Joseph: The Search for the Cup (detail), Bacchiacca, 1515-1516
A detail of an image I looked at before, showing the leg seam. It's clearly a double line, though still unclear exactly what it represents.
Crucifixion, Hans Baldung Grien, 1512
A contemporary German image. The man in the lower left hand corner shows the two piece hose (no evidence of a method to join them) and also points and lacing holes at the waistline. Not an Italian image, obviously, but points at the waist are in evidence in Italy both before and after this period, so it's reasonable to assume that they are in existence at this point as well.
The Scourging of Christ, Alejo Fernández (between 1496 & 1545)
The date of this Spanish painting is unclear, but the style of clothing seems to be in the late 15c/early 16c mode. The men with the scourges have some interesting hose, and there seems to be at least one clear point at the center back on the man on the right. He also seems to be wearing a tank top-style upper garment, perhaps some form of pourpoint.
The Mocking of Christ, Matthias Grünewald, 1503
The man on the right shows a lot of good hose details. Points and lacing holes, seams, and lots of big fat wrinkles. That makes me feel much better about myself.
Halberdier, Jacopo Pontormo, 1530s
A somewhat later style, but still skirtless doublet, wide sleeves, and full hose. Points can be seen at the waist and CF opening.
The Martyrdom of St. Catherine, Jan Provost, 1520s (before 1529)
A Flemish image in a similar style. Lots of details of points and doublet lining.
Flagellation of Christ, Jörg Ratgeb, 1518-19
This German one is just plain weird. The man in the green doublet and red hose is shown conveniently from both sides. The hose seem to attach to the scalloped doublet with a single zig-zag cord. The doublet itself is sleeveless and seems to button on the left side under the arm (there appears to be no opening on the right side). Obviously, there's a lot of allegorical stuff that may be happening here, but these details are very interesting.
Deposition from the Cross (detail)
I've linked to this one before, but it's worth pointing out again for the fringey two-part hose.
Christ and the Adulteress, Titian, 1508-10
No visible points here, but some other nice details, including what happens when your hose aren't pointed up.
Flagellation, Unknown Master, Hungarian, 1514
Man, I'm getting a lot of mileage out of flagellations. This is another weird one. The man on the left has the two part hose, again with no indication of how they're kept together. The front of his hose seem to have a diagonal closure. The full, pleated hose on the right are interesting as well. I saw some others almost identical to those earlier, though I'm not sure if I linked to them.